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who will they be using them against? and if sfpd has made cit a priority why does not 911 know what i am talking about when i asked for the officer. why wasn't one deployed in the crisis? why doesn't the beat cop know anything about the problem? >> the very community that they propose to use the tasers against, the people in the mental health crisis, these are the exact communities that are at a greatly increased risk of cardiac arrest. one of the few studies on tasers that was not bought by taser international that showed that in-custody fatalities go up 600 percent in the first year. and are you aware that tasers only have a useful life of five years or so after which they need to be scraped and repurchased. each defibrillator costs twice the money of the tasers and also like to add that the deescalation training was scaled back by the sfpd and the stated reason was lacks of funds, how do we have the money to train the force to use another weapon of violence and how can we expect the citizens to react with anything but
who will they be using them against? and if sfpd has made cit a priority why does not 911 know what i am talking about when i asked for the officer. why wasn't one deployed in the crisis? why doesn't the beat cop know anything about the problem? >> the very community that they propose to use the tasers against, the people in the mental health crisis, these are the exact communities that are at a greatly increased risk of cardiac arrest. one of the few studies on tasers that was not bought...
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elected i have always appreciated that you have mentoring those of us who are entering into the field after you and not a lot of elected officials do that to give their advise and support and i appreciate the support that you have given to me and i also want to say that i have an incredible apt of respect fortitude you have and the honesty and the way you carry yourself as-woman and a woman leader and it's rare to see that type of leadership and those of us in this field admire those qualities about and you see how incredible you have moving through a lot of different types of politics and fundraisings and lots of other things and so i want to thank you again for being that role-model and i appreciate what you have done. >> supervisor kim, i also want to add a few words for myself. fee i don't evenna you [spelling?] you main annoy you are the first asian america supervisor that i got know when i was a community activist and i appreciate your words of wisdom done and encouragement for all of the work that we do here and i also want to take a moment to colleagues remind you that you sta
elected i have always appreciated that you have mentoring those of us who are entering into the field after you and not a lot of elected officials do that to give their advise and support and i appreciate the support that you have given to me and i also want to say that i have an incredible apt of respect fortitude you have and the honesty and the way you carry yourself as-woman and a woman leader and it's rare to see that type of leadership and those of us in this field admire those qualities...
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i know that you used to be -- there used to be that diagonal dynamic that habe is not as in existence as it was in the past but i'll say one thing sean, in admire ages i did not find that appeal on your birthday and i hope you remember that one when i call on you your birthday when i call on you in work ring for the city and county of fraction and also i have a lot of respect for your love and dedication to your family and a lot of us know that you could have continued on and run for other offices here in san francisco asked made an acknowledgement of your family not to continue and a lot of us in the political realm that is something challenging to do to include your family within your personal career as pirptions when you could have done more much this elective life and i know malia brought up the love for your family but some. our legislative staff have been waiting with shots to get the festivity started and so thank you sean for your years of service. >>> thank you very much mr. president i'll try to keep it brief and needless to say, i don't believe that sean elsburnd was the fi
i know that you used to be -- there used to be that diagonal dynamic that habe is not as in existence as it was in the past but i'll say one thing sean, in admire ages i did not find that appeal on your birthday and i hope you remember that one when i call on you your birthday when i call on you in work ring for the city and county of fraction and also i have a lot of respect for your love and dedication to your family and a lot of us know that you could have continued on and run for other...
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>> no, this is where you're approving how to use these funds. and it's the specific allocation of the majority for the light rail vehicle rehab and the smaller portion for the youth paths. we will bring next year a similar accept and spend resolution for your consideration that will have a similar split of funding for maintenance and for the balance of the youth fare program. >> and my other question will be how sure are we of this cost figure? because, you know, the month, it's been condensed in time and we don't rile have an idea of how many people will sign up for this. so, i'll put that out there, but i certainly want to give supervisor campos a chance to speak to this. >> thank you, commissioner. you know, one of the things that it's true about the small minority that have opposed this project is that they are very resourceful and along the way finding different reasons to vote it no. i will give them that. but let me be very clear here. the resolution that this board passed was a resolution that called upon the program going forward if the
>> no, this is where you're approving how to use these funds. and it's the specific allocation of the majority for the light rail vehicle rehab and the smaller portion for the youth paths. we will bring next year a similar accept and spend resolution for your consideration that will have a similar split of funding for maintenance and for the balance of the youth fare program. >> and my other question will be how sure are we of this cost figure? because, you know, the month, it's...
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it took us time to review. by the time we completed the review, it was already in november and at that point we started packaging up the findings along with the legislation normally at that point we would then notify all the people who had attended that director's hearing in this case. what happened is it appears to be an error, an oversight on our part, that we somehow did not inform them properly or if timely right after we submitted the package. however, again, based upon the evaluation it appears that the technical reasons that was brought forward in the hearing was satisfied. it appears that right now the issue appears not of a technical nature, but more related to the construction of this building which falls under both planning and building department. >> which went through the proper procedures and were approved for -- within dbi and planning. >> according to the project sponsor starting 2008 and they have a building permit in process. so, again, this is just one small element of the entire development
it took us time to review. by the time we completed the review, it was already in november and at that point we started packaging up the findings along with the legislation normally at that point we would then notify all the people who had attended that director's hearing in this case. what happened is it appears to be an error, an oversight on our part, that we somehow did not inform them properly or if timely right after we submitted the package. however, again, based upon the evaluation it...
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my understanding is she is to be joining us. my understanding is that there are no department presentations and i'm wondering if we can go to public comment and then hopefully the sponsor will join us. so we'll hear first from planning and then from supervisor olague. so we have aaron star from planning. >> thought you forgot about me. good afternoon, supervisors, aaron star, planning department staff. i'm here to speak about current efforts to do a rezoning, create a name neighbor commercial district in an area that was previously under the authority of the redevelopment authority. we are trying to create a named area, the planning code has two categories of neighborhood commercial districts, one is an individual namedd neighborhood commercial district. they are found throughout the city and when you make a change to one of these districts it affects all property zoned that throughout the city. named neighbor commercial districts are areas like the upper fillmore ncd, polk street ncd and when changes are made to these districts
my understanding is she is to be joining us. my understanding is that there are no department presentations and i'm wondering if we can go to public comment and then hopefully the sponsor will join us. so we'll hear first from planning and then from supervisor olague. so we have aaron star from planning. >> thought you forgot about me. good afternoon, supervisors, aaron star, planning department staff. i'm here to speak about current efforts to do a rezoning, create a name neighbor...
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so, thank you so much for this body's what you do for us, in terms of your funding. i guarantee you that sfmta will use those funds appropriately and try to address those concerns and needs that were raised today. thank you very much. >> if you, very much. >> we appreciate the comments. and any other member of the public who would like to speak please come forward. >> chairman, i stand before you today as a senior, and as a senior, i have seen so many discreptcies from time-to-time in regards to drivers of muni transportation and seniors. let it be known that seniors are not as strong as they were in formal years. and so when it comes for them to be using the bus as their own means of transportation, the drivers, should have these and discretion for the reason of those times for those seniors to come to the bus and then get off. and get on. >> this is not the case. i have seen it for myself, time and time again. and today, at to the meetings to speak about this issue. i think is a more than time that you all should sit down with the thet them know that the seniors be
so, thank you so much for this body's what you do for us, in terms of your funding. i guarantee you that sfmta will use those funds appropriately and try to address those concerns and needs that were raised today. thank you very much. >> if you, very much. >> we appreciate the comments. and any other member of the public who would like to speak please come forward. >> chairman, i stand before you today as a senior, and as a senior, i have seen so many discreptcies from...
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with respect to enforcement, i think it gives us some enforcement authority. exactly what kind i agree is ambiguous. i think if it means anything it has to mean the ability to actually enforce. and demand that the records be turned over. with respect to the two different standards voting whether it's three commissioners vote and that there is no violation or vote there is a fining of a violation, that has to do with the burden of proof, because in a show-cause hearing that the respondent bears the burden of finding that there is no violation, we, the commission, will be voting on whether he has met that burden of showing that there is no violation. and that is what requires the three-vote majority. on the flipside, when we're handling something pursuant to chapter 3, we are voting to determine if there was a violation and therefore we need a majority vote for that. so that is why my understanding that we have those two different standards in terms of whether it's three commissions voting for or three commissioners voting against. were there any comments from t
with respect to enforcement, i think it gives us some enforcement authority. exactly what kind i agree is ambiguous. i think if it means anything it has to mean the ability to actually enforce. and demand that the records be turned over. with respect to the two different standards voting whether it's three commissioners vote and that there is no violation or vote there is a fining of a violation, that has to do with the burden of proof, because in a show-cause hearing that the respondent bears...
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do you see the amount of airport shuttles, amount of taxis that are using that route? as i said i'm not here to argue the merits of the route but the city owes it so itself to be a complete impact of the entire plan and all plans in the area. thank you. >> president chiu: next speaker. >> good evening, board members. this is off the bike path real quick because i've been here all day as well and i want to make this comment before it gets too late. i don't know if you all know in your districts, my office down at transport workers union is in receipt of a letter from the agency, the sf mt agency that they're going to cut office over the holiday weekend, not knowing -- i'm pretty sure you don't know about this. >> president chiu: is this comment relevant to this appeal? >> yes. >> president chiu: okay. thank you. next speaker. and if i could ask folks again, your comments during this comment period, is on this appeal. >> hello. i'm dan coolly, and i am concerned that there is no environmental impact report associated with this major change to the city's traffic flow, maj
do you see the amount of airport shuttles, amount of taxis that are using that route? as i said i'm not here to argue the merits of the route but the city owes it so itself to be a complete impact of the entire plan and all plans in the area. thank you. >> president chiu: next speaker. >> good evening, board members. this is off the bike path real quick because i've been here all day as well and i want to make this comment before it gets too late. i don't know if you all know in...
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it was a wonderful exercise in taking care of the more fragile among us. anyway fast forward three and a half years newly elected mayor he asks me to be the director of emergency services and i really didn't want to do it because of what i have seen and he went to my house and my wife wanted to. >> >> live in san francisco so my goose was cooked. i took over the job and i planned to return to the east coast. there was one staff member, no vehicles, no money, no nothing, and through the good efforts of a director of public works at the time they built seismically configured foundations and they brought in double wides and built the interim emergency command center which is the community building over there and that was where we were. no furniture, no telephones, no nothing. i came the first day and ask where is the command center? it's in construction. it's that area in the park and you have one employee. she's not really yours. she was the mayor's pir, public relations person, and she's been -- apparently that was siberia for seem for people from the mayor
it was a wonderful exercise in taking care of the more fragile among us. anyway fast forward three and a half years newly elected mayor he asks me to be the director of emergency services and i really didn't want to do it because of what i have seen and he went to my house and my wife wanted to. >> >> live in san francisco so my goose was cooked. i took over the job and i planned to return to the east coast. there was one staff member, no vehicles, no money, no nothing, and through...
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now, that brings us to presentation. four community meeting were held before construction of the north beach retrieval shaft work which started in august of 2012. the presentations of those four meetings described the work necessary to construct the tbm retrieval shaft on columbus avenue. and some members of the north beach community raised concerns at these meetings about traffic and business disruption caused by the retrieval shaft construction. before you is the plan that's environmentally approved, which shows the retrieval shaft work on columbus avenue. the utility relocation work was completed between august and november of this year. on the half block section of columbus between union and filbert, and only one lane of traffic was closed at a time for this utility work. the construction of the retrieval shaft is scheduled to again 2013, and will be completed in approximately 10 months. the retrieval shaft excavation will require the closure of two lanes on columbus avenue. to minimize effects of construction we hav
now, that brings us to presentation. four community meeting were held before construction of the north beach retrieval shaft work which started in august of 2012. the presentations of those four meetings described the work necessary to construct the tbm retrieval shaft on columbus avenue. and some members of the north beach community raised concerns at these meetings about traffic and business disruption caused by the retrieval shaft construction. before you is the plan that's environmentally...
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thank you again for hosting us. >> thank you for including us in "culturewire." ♪ good morning and welcome to the local agency formation commission as a joint meeting with the public utilities commission. my name is chair avalos, john avalos chair of the lafco. i am joined by other lafco members, commissioner olague and commissioner pimentel. this is a joint committee so i will pass on the mic on our chair from the public utilities commission. >> yes, art torres member of puc and other members. thank you very much for being here. we make a very legionary and strong quorum on this rainy day. >> okay. >> and of course our general manager is here as well, har an kelly and the staff of the puc. >> thank you. i want to thank sfgtv for their work broadcasting this meeting, and madam clerk if you could chair with us your announcements. >> please make sure to silence all electronic devices. speaker cards and any documents should be submitted to the clerk. >> okay. do you want to call the roll? you call the roll on puc. >> yes. >> president torres. >> here. >> commissioner. >> here. >> comm
thank you again for hosting us. >> thank you for including us in "culturewire." ♪ good morning and welcome to the local agency formation commission as a joint meeting with the public utilities commission. my name is chair avalos, john avalos chair of the lafco. i am joined by other lafco members, commissioner olague and commissioner pimentel. this is a joint committee so i will pass on the mic on our chair from the public utilities commission. >> yes, art torres member...
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that is something our offices can help us. certainly we have our own ways of getting the word out or on social media efforts. i think as we're going through that phase and late summer perhaps we could be part of that effort and join folks from different parts of san francisco not in the deep green areas that want to participate. >> sounds good. >> can i add in the green areas it's a higher success rate for people staying in the program and at the end of the day what we would like to have is in the green area making sure that whatever we buy that we have enough customers to actually sell the power, and so the great thing about is that now we know in other areas where there might want be a large percentage, but at least we know if people choose to start opting out we have a waiting list, because we want to be financially responsible making sure that we can sell the power that we bill, so another thing we're identifying is businesses, so we want to have a big waits list and so when we determine the size that's what we're taking i
that is something our offices can help us. certainly we have our own ways of getting the word out or on social media efforts. i think as we're going through that phase and late summer perhaps we could be part of that effort and join folks from different parts of san francisco not in the deep green areas that want to participate. >> sounds good. >> can i add in the green areas it's a higher success rate for people staying in the program and at the end of the day what we would like to...
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because this gives us an opportunity to thank you for being here with us. gives us an opportunity to stand shoulder to shoulder with you and do good to serve those who are most in need. today we finish our preparation. tomorrow a fleet of volunteer drivers help us deliver these 5100 meals. so, thank you again for being with us here today. thank you for your help throughout the year. thank you very much for your help throughout the 70 years. and now back to our mc. thank you very much. >> thank you very much. (applause) >> and we're going to whip right through this. so, it may look like a lot, but it's not. what we're doing mostly is introducing the people who are here today because without you we wouldn't be able to do any of this. we appreciate it so very much. so, first we're going to introduce some of our folks. the divisional officers and staff. we'll start with the divisional commander who you've met, lieutenant colonel steve smith. give me one clap. (applause) >> very good. divisional secretary for program and metro coordinator major jack bird. (appla
because this gives us an opportunity to thank you for being here with us. gives us an opportunity to stand shoulder to shoulder with you and do good to serve those who are most in need. today we finish our preparation. tomorrow a fleet of volunteer drivers help us deliver these 5100 meals. so, thank you again for being with us here today. thank you for your help throughout the year. thank you very much for your help throughout the 70 years. and now back to our mc. thank you very much. >>...
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because they are easy to use it will increase over use and officers will be use it as the first line rather than reverting to what they used in training such as verbal commands and we also have outlined many incidents of litigation that have occurred... >> just some follow up questions. did you ever get a response from the mayor on your letter? >> no, we did not. >> and any of the staff in >> no. >> i think that the letter was actually really well done and it is well documented and there are a number of citations in here, do you recall what i read to commander ali, right now, referencing how it looks to be when tasers are involved in working with people who have mental health issues or who have drug use in their system, that increases the amount of injury that happens when making contact with such folks. >> yes, that is correct. and that is exactly why we think that especially one of the proposals put form to arm the cit officers in particular with the weapons runs in the con tarry. >> are you familiar with the study of the university of florida, i am wondering how widespread does th
because they are easy to use it will increase over use and officers will be use it as the first line rather than reverting to what they used in training such as verbal commands and we also have outlined many incidents of litigation that have occurred... >> just some follow up questions. did you ever get a response from the mayor on your letter? >> no, we did not. >> and any of the staff in >> no. >> i think that the letter was actually really well done and it is...
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they also gave us quite a bit of good feedback on other issues, including the suggestion for us to start the sfmta to do more consistent applications of our, of our parking management equipment and processes and regulations. we take that to heart and we will be putting a lot of those suggestions into place in the next couple months as well as the upcoming year. we have also developed a tool kit for outreach that we will be distributing to the group to help us do further outreach. and we will be extending an offer, as i mentioned, to visit with some of these potential problem areas. and we also produced about 40,000 fliers for distribution at their request. so, we'll be seeing those in the next few months. the other track we're following is the technical end in getting the machines and everything up to snuff and ready for implementation by january 6th. and on all the non-sf park meters which is three quarters of the stock, they're the older variety, we're pre-programming the changes in the shop and we will be visiting the site and touching each one of them and affecting the change in the
they also gave us quite a bit of good feedback on other issues, including the suggestion for us to start the sfmta to do more consistent applications of our, of our parking management equipment and processes and regulations. we take that to heart and we will be putting a lot of those suggestions into place in the next couple months as well as the upcoming year. we have also developed a tool kit for outreach that we will be distributing to the group to help us do further outreach. and we will be...
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option number 4 gives us the best of all possible worlds. it eliminates on-street disruption while at the same time providing a staging ground not only to take out this [speaker not understood], but another tunnel boring machine for fisherman's wharf and also for the construction of the station. so, we very strongly support option number 4. >> thank you, sir. next speaker, please. >> lorenzo petroni, claudine chang and [speaker not understood]. >>> hello, i lived in north beach for 55 years. north beach is going through very challenging situation right now. there are people hanging on their businesslike this. i'm not against the project, but what i'm against is [speaker not understood] in north beach. we don't need to do the extraction in north beach. let's leave like they do in new york the machine on the ground, and then you reuse it later on. you don't have to do anything. you do that, everything will be cool. [laughter] >>> do you understand what i mean? north beach, lot of the little business in north beach are going to go broke. i'm no
option number 4 gives us the best of all possible worlds. it eliminates on-street disruption while at the same time providing a staging ground not only to take out this [speaker not understood], but another tunnel boring machine for fisherman's wharf and also for the construction of the station. so, we very strongly support option number 4. >> thank you, sir. next speaker, please. >> lorenzo petroni, claudine chang and [speaker not understood]. >>> hello, i lived in north...
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the third piece, dynamic traffic assignment model has been completed and now in use. i know that this is... stuff, this is the first model of its kind in use by a public agency in the nation right now and it is extraordinary in a number of ways and particularly because it allows at the same time in the same tool the treatment of very, very small designed features, such as build out on the sidewalks and how it effects the vehicles on the streets and the over all movements of traffic transit pedestrians and so on in the large network like san francisco. and i would like to take a moment to congratulations elizabeth sol,, the deputy for technology service and staff for the major accomplishment which is possible through a grant from the federal, from the federal administration and also, would like to point out that the model is already getting a lot of interest nationally because of its application in an over run area. and some of that will be on display in mid january when some of our staff participate in the national transportation research board meeting in washington,
the third piece, dynamic traffic assignment model has been completed and now in use. i know that this is... stuff, this is the first model of its kind in use by a public agency in the nation right now and it is extraordinary in a number of ways and particularly because it allows at the same time in the same tool the treatment of very, very small designed features, such as build out on the sidewalks and how it effects the vehicles on the streets and the over all movements of traffic transit...
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i believe that the greatest use of or great use of police department energy is around people who are dealing with mental health issues and mental health crisis and the crisis intervention team is really geared to responding to that great need we have here in san francisco. i am concerned personally about the use of electronic controlled weapons, tasers, especially how they could be used in a show of force, not just bringing about compliance but in a show of force on people who are mentally ill in san francisco and i think that for me it makes a lot of sense that we make our work around crisis intervention as strong as it can be. before considering, you know, use of lethal force in the department. i am not a decision maker through but this is part of a hearing from hearing from the supervisors and members of the public. we also have here, i am happy to have chief greg sure and who is here to present on this issue. he only has a limited amount of time here this morning and so i would like to call him up first to discuss his objective or his interest, the work of the department around e
i believe that the greatest use of or great use of police department energy is around people who are dealing with mental health issues and mental health crisis and the crisis intervention team is really geared to responding to that great need we have here in san francisco. i am concerned personally about the use of electronic controlled weapons, tasers, especially how they could be used in a show of force, not just bringing about compliance but in a show of force on people who are mentally ill...
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we will have customers able to opt out respond to us via snail mail or email. we will make sure that we meet the minimum requirements of the law, which is two of the notifications must be mailed before service occurs, and then two of the notifications must be mailed after service has occurred within a 60 day boundary before and 60 day boundary after, so customers will know from us what we think their bill experience will be. customers who don't opt out after the first two notifications and get enrolled in the program see their first bill and decide they don't want to be part of the program will then receive again -- again they will receive an opt out notification and tell us no thank you at that point. they can call, let us know by various means that they want out, and throughout this time period we will be utilizing broadcast media, social media, broadcast media to make sure folks are aware. it's not just a quiet piece of mail that shows up at their home. it's going to be a full campaign here in the city, television, out door, advertising, newspaper, social me
we will have customers able to opt out respond to us via snail mail or email. we will make sure that we meet the minimum requirements of the law, which is two of the notifications must be mailed before service occurs, and then two of the notifications must be mailed after service has occurred within a 60 day boundary before and 60 day boundary after, so customers will know from us what we think their bill experience will be. customers who don't opt out after the first two notifications and get...
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what are we worried about that required us to define what "support" means? >> i think that is a fair point. he think what you are generally saying is that if we define "support," or possibly excluding things in the definition. i think that is a very fair point. i would also just point out subsection 4 does allow the ethics commission to propose regulations and i think the reason that we put that in there, we know that to the extent there is any potential ambiguity or loophole, people will try to go there. that is just how things go. >> this whole issue came up because of a loophole, because someone found a leap hole. >> right. so i think to some extent the ethics commission has the ability to address leap hole lope holes. the only downside if we don't define "support" at all there will be the chance of zero gay and lesbian as of what "support means." >> if we had "support" i would define it as public action or statement or actions encouraging or urging -- i will concede that i'm hoping that my hypothetic is ridiculous and it would be interpreted in the way t
what are we worried about that required us to define what "support" means? >> i think that is a fair point. he think what you are generally saying is that if we define "support," or possibly excluding things in the definition. i think that is a very fair point. i would also just point out subsection 4 does allow the ethics commission to propose regulations and i think the reason that we put that in there, we know that to the extent there is any potential ambiguity or...
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when are you going to get some work for us. i thought of a new movie that a supervisor finishes a long term and then he goes in this movie right to the airport, he's gone. leaves -- you ever seen the movie, the stepfather? it sounds like a good -- a little change of a movie. but it sounds like a good one. he leaves the city, just leaves it after that. and thanks for being here. thanks for your work, supervisor elsbernd. and thanks for elsbernd being in your morning, thanks for being here in our nights. ♪ thanks for changing whatever's wrong, and make it right. ♪ let me wander through this wonderland that the city we do share, and i thank you for always being there. ♪ and i thank you for being supervisor here ♪ christina, thanks for being here, christina, the truth is you never left us, all through our city wild days, our mad supervisor existence, and most of all you kept your promises ♪ ♪ what's your city's name? ♪ who's your mayor? is he rich? is he rich like we? ♪ has he taken any time to show you what you cit
when are you going to get some work for us. i thought of a new movie that a supervisor finishes a long term and then he goes in this movie right to the airport, he's gone. leaves -- you ever seen the movie, the stepfather? it sounds like a good -- a little change of a movie. but it sounds like a good one. he leaves the city, just leaves it after that. and thanks for being here. thanks for your work, supervisor elsbernd. and thanks for elsbernd being in your morning, thanks for being here in our...
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right than what is required by this project we know this because the licenses that were offered to us, did have time limit and is so we know that the city that the agency does not require perpetual easements and again by providing an offer that excuse me by presenting resolutions that do not seek to accommodate the greatest public good and least private injury the resolutions are not valid and the could a kriivel code of civil procedure precludes the board from passing any kind of resolution based on sequentially invalid license that is have been set for the in the exhibit a resolution and finally, the city has failed to offer just compensation. the appraisal that was submitted to the property owners with respect to these two properties those appraisals are based on temp license not perpetual easiment and is therefore inadequate and in addition, the appraisal did not adequately consider the impact on a property concern severance damages that would occurring temporarily during construction work and then reduced access and these are set forth in the snags we have provide and had so i th
right than what is required by this project we know this because the licenses that were offered to us, did have time limit and is so we know that the city that the agency does not require perpetual easements and again by providing an offer that excuse me by presenting resolutions that do not seek to accommodate the greatest public good and least private injury the resolutions are not valid and the could a kriivel code of civil procedure precludes the board from passing any kind of resolution...
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let us stand together. who is my adversary. let him come near unto me. fear of the lord god will -- who will condemn me. lo, they all shall wax old as a garment, isaiah chapter 50. there's a lot in that but jesus christ is actually speaking through the prophet. seven centuries before it happened, in luc, jesus said these are the words which i spoke to you while i was yet with you that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the law of moses, and in the prophets, that would be isaiah and in psalms concerning me. >> president chiu: thank you. are there any other members of the public that wish to speak in general public comment? please step up. next speaker. >> it's great to see you guys honoring a local business today. that made me feel good. i love this city. i became inspired to eat healthier and started my first business here. i started a dream and a vision to provide healthy food options, working endlessly to build my location. now a great deal has changed with the mobile food trucks. most existing businesses were grandfathered in. this did
let us stand together. who is my adversary. let him come near unto me. fear of the lord god will -- who will condemn me. lo, they all shall wax old as a garment, isaiah chapter 50. there's a lot in that but jesus christ is actually speaking through the prophet. seven centuries before it happened, in luc, jesus said these are the words which i spoke to you while i was yet with you that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the law of moses, and in the prophets, that would be isaiah...
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it's very meaningful for us to did that year. we have a lot to celebrate. let me just say that painters, scrptdures, poets, musicians, designers, mathematicians, great architects of the italian country have come here to san francisco. we have experienced so much of the italian talent here in san francisco. that's why we wanted to be celebrating here and i am so glad to be joined not only by senator leno and assembly man amaino and david chiu and scott wiener as well. they all want to get in on this great celebration because it's wonderful for our city. i have often said our city and our strength is our international status and we do that with all the sister cities, with all of the flag raisings, but this is kind of new. what i said to our counsel general it's special because it's kind of bringing forth the things that we have done and the things that we enjoy doing and placing it into a recognized celebration that goes for a long time, so i am proud to launch this here in san francisco, and if i may to not only let you know that it's a great honor to have t
it's very meaningful for us to did that year. we have a lot to celebrate. let me just say that painters, scrptdures, poets, musicians, designers, mathematicians, great architects of the italian country have come here to san francisco. we have experienced so much of the italian talent here in san francisco. that's why we wanted to be celebrating here and i am so glad to be joined not only by senator leno and assembly man amaino and david chiu and scott wiener as well. they all want to get in on...
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so, i'm so glad that joaquin has come aboard to help us. he, having headed up the neighborhood services program for years, now has his talent with todd in making sure that all of the small businesses along these commercial corridors have access to our programs, have a higher degree of understanding, along with our carla johnson and our mayor's office of disability, and all the different agencies working together, we're going to make this successful. this is a family of agencies that care about our small businesses. last time i looked, there were over 71,000 businesses who registered that had less than 100 employees. that's an incredible sign of businesses that have -- that are our backbone, that hire a number of people. they're not the biggest employers, but they do hire the largest number of employees. over 51% of the city's employees are hired by small businesses. and i want to continue supporting them, nurturing them, have them increase. i hate seeing vacant, vacant buildings, vacant spots. benny knows every time we walk down there, what
so, i'm so glad that joaquin has come aboard to help us. he, having headed up the neighborhood services program for years, now has his talent with todd in making sure that all of the small businesses along these commercial corridors have access to our programs, have a higher degree of understanding, along with our carla johnson and our mayor's office of disability, and all the different agencies working together, we're going to make this successful. this is a family of agencies that care about...
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. >> (singing) ain't no valley high, ain't no valley low, ain't no space wide enough can stop us. if you need an artist we'll find a space for you, you don't need to worry, ain't no city space wide enough, ain't no city space low enough can keep me from spaces to you, remember the day you made a space, you made so free and i know i thanked you for what you did and i know now that i'm glad and make it better, don't make it sad. and there are spaces i remember all my life i got an artist space and these spaces have some meaning and now it's up to you too. >> thank you, walter. next speaker. >> good afternoon, i'm donna figarota with the union square business district. i just wanted to talk a little bit about the background for this project. it grew out of a larger vision for hallidie plaza that was developed by the bid streetscapes committee that would create better access from the top to the bottom with a (inaudible) approach that would allow for a larger range of activities like flower stands, and the street artists being a very important part of hallidie plaza were folded into th
. >> (singing) ain't no valley high, ain't no valley low, ain't no space wide enough can stop us. if you need an artist we'll find a space for you, you don't need to worry, ain't no city space wide enough, ain't no city space low enough can keep me from spaces to you, remember the day you made a space, you made so free and i know i thanked you for what you did and i know now that i'm glad and make it better, don't make it sad. and there are spaces i remember all my life i got an artist...
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and report back to us the february 5th meeting which will be the next meeting after that about what's happened to that and perhaps on january 15th a report along the way of how likely it looks. >> listen, we've got a staff recommendation and i don't disregard that lightly. but the point here is we've been told by our old friend judson true and several respected member of the north beach and local neighborhoods that we've got some trust rebuilding to do. and what i hear as the biggest concern of trust is that this resolution will allow us to back slide so to another option that they don't want * so that maybe to me we junk the resolution and do everything we can to make option 4 happen. we're not making any promises. clap lap >> don't clap, there's no promises. just like i told the free youth riders, no promises, but we'll try. and then we'll come back and do it again. * >> i think it would be appropriate to have some sense of the board resolution -- not resolution, some kind of the sense of the board [inaudible] -- a motion or something. >> mr. chairman, actually you can just approve
and report back to us the february 5th meeting which will be the next meeting after that about what's happened to that and perhaps on january 15th a report along the way of how likely it looks. >> listen, we've got a staff recommendation and i don't disregard that lightly. but the point here is we've been told by our old friend judson true and several respected member of the north beach and local neighborhoods that we've got some trust rebuilding to do. and what i hear as the biggest...
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so, please watch us, calm us, support us, but don't do excavation in north beach. thank you very much. >> thank you, ma'am. next speaker, please. >> mary helen lowly, don [speaker not understood], barry toronto. >> good afternoon. >>> good afternoon, i'm [speaker not understood]. i'm a resident of north beach. and i want to say a quick thing about comparing this to downtown to north beach to the disruption. as you know i'm sure, north beach has lots of restaurants with outdoor seating. the mess and the noise would [speaker not understood] anybody outside. i hope you're getting it. there is a lot of fear what the first option would do to the neighborhood, to small business owners there. they will not recover if they're having a difficult time already. and also i know you're hearing a lot of different ideas, opinions and i guess that's democracy, messy, but that's the way it is. but i think the one thing that is consistent and unanimous to north beach is that nobody wants that first option, the excavation on columbus and union. or i think if that's the one you end up
so, please watch us, calm us, support us, but don't do excavation in north beach. thank you very much. >> thank you, ma'am. next speaker, please. >> mary helen lowly, don [speaker not understood], barry toronto. >> good afternoon. >>> good afternoon, i'm [speaker not understood]. i'm a resident of north beach. and i want to say a quick thing about comparing this to downtown to north beach to the disruption. as you know i'm sure, north beach has lots of restaurants...
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and it took a while and it took some momentum to get us going but we finally did it. we finally brought the community together and we worked over nine months with a variety of stakeholders, local stakeholders, people throughout the city. and we came up with a plan. and that plan went before the mta board. they considered the policy merits of it and decided to pass it unanimously on october 16. again, i just wanted to emphasize because i think it's so important that we were able to engage so many people throughout the community and to come up with a plan that was balanced. and we considered several options. we considered removing a lane of traffic on oak street but oak street is very important for vehicle traffic and people throughout the city, in the western neighborhoods and as well in the eastern neighborhoods who use this street to access, you know, 19th avenue to get to the golden gate bridge or octavia to the 101 that it was important we not increase congestion. i know appellants have stated this project will somehow increase congestion in the neighborhood but ou
and it took a while and it took some momentum to get us going but we finally did it. we finally brought the community together and we worked over nine months with a variety of stakeholders, local stakeholders, people throughout the city. and we came up with a plan. and that plan went before the mta board. they considered the policy merits of it and decided to pass it unanimously on october 16. again, i just wanted to emphasize because i think it's so important that we were able to engage so...
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, let's not use the technical term "referred" but sent to us from the superintendent, but handled in the same was from the task force? are they the same basket of definition? >> right now they are? >> the supervisor the records makes the same types of determinations that the task force would. if they were to find that there was was a non-willful violation that a record was public and should have been produced, but it wasn't, they are supposed to send that to the attorney general or the district attorney, just as the task force is supposed to. the task force gets an extra step under 67.35b, but believe that the commission looked at that pro[stro-eugs/] apply broadly to anyone. so the supervisor of records might also say here, we also find this, you know? they are not mandated to, but they certainly might. and the last conversation that the commission had, i believe it was sort of leaving the door open for that. if we did get a referral from the body, we would not just say we could not do anything. >> if i could just clarify. my reading and understanding of the ordinance is perhaps a l
, let's not use the technical term "referred" but sent to us from the superintendent, but handled in the same was from the task force? are they the same basket of definition? >> right now they are? >> the supervisor the records makes the same types of determinations that the task force would. if they were to find that there was was a non-willful violation that a record was public and should have been produced, but it wasn't, they are supposed to send that to the attorney...
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we are going to use the flex of this rod to fling away. exactly as you moved your hands. >> that's it? >> that's it. >> i'm a natural. >> push both arms forward and snap the lower hand into your tummy. push forward. >> i did gave it a try and had great time but i might need some more practice. i met someone else with real fly casting skills. her name is donnand
we are going to use the flex of this rod to fling away. exactly as you moved your hands. >> that's it? >> that's it. >> i'm a natural. >> push both arms forward and snap the lower hand into your tummy. push forward. >> i did gave it a try and had great time but i might need some more practice. i met someone else with real fly casting skills. her name is donnand
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and madam clerk do we have any other items before us? >> no mr. chr app >> >> >> frantic shoppers around you may be in need of a break from the festivities and have no fear i will count down the places that will add fun to the madness. if you're in good of a good laugh stop by for free comedy night and food and drink speciallies. come laugh the night away at 8:00 p.m. sharp. after that get your skate grove on in your finest black and white duds. join the godfather of skate and his party crew this thursday at the skate night. skate to the funk and rolear disco and say the words "i love skating" and get a discount at the door. maybe the star party is your cup of tea and socialize and get tips about the night sky and from san francisco's picturesque land's end and the skies the limit. that's the weekly buzz. visit us ♪ ♪ ♪ >> the san francisco playground's history dates back to 1927 when the area where the present playground and center is today was purchased by the city for $27,000. in the 1950s, the center was expanded by then mayor robinso
and madam clerk do we have any other items before us? >> no mr. chr app >> >> >> frantic shoppers around you may be in need of a break from the festivities and have no fear i will count down the places that will add fun to the madness. if you're in good of a good laugh stop by for free comedy night and food and drink speciallies. come laugh the night away at 8:00 p.m. sharp. after that get your skate grove on in your finest black and white duds. join the godfather of...
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and let us know. i know that it's trying coming to our neighborhood because we're passionate, but we do deserve to get feedback and to be listened to and to be heard and so i'm really interested in what happened to that $4 million and why people are still not being able to use that money that came from the jewish community high school for down payments for housing and that type of thing. is it still there, where is it? thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> former supervisor olague, thank you for bringing this important topic at this time. in the past after many, many years ross mikarami was instrumental in having a hearing about the certificates. one thing leads to the other. now, today i attended the meeting on the successor agency to redevelopment and you know that you are creating yet another commission on, they call it infrastructure and investment, you know? now, while we were attending the other meeting, not once were these people who were appointed on this investment and infrastr
and let us know. i know that it's trying coming to our neighborhood because we're passionate, but we do deserve to get feedback and to be listened to and to be heard and so i'm really interested in what happened to that $4 million and why people are still not being able to use that money that came from the jewish community high school for down payments for housing and that type of thing. is it still there, where is it? thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >>...
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typically these machines have a useful life. the particular machine that's being used to construct the central subway are brand-new machines. so, they have a significant -- quite a bit of useful life left in them. >> all right, thank you. >> other members of the board? mr. reiskin? >> yes, i guess i want to add a bit more context and explanation and perhaps offer that, since we've been working very closely with supervisor chiu, justin true from his office may want to add a few words prior to public comment. but the supervisor is presenting over at a board meeting at the moment. first, i want to clarify that -- and i think this was a little bit perhaps misconstrued in some of the media reports. what we're not talking about is recommending an extension to north beach or not, or voting on a station to north beach for north beach or not. the current approved project that has, that has been fully designed, that has been funded, that has been environmentally cleared already contemplates a tunnel going to north beach. so, that's part o
typically these machines have a useful life. the particular machine that's being used to construct the central subway are brand-new machines. so, they have a significant -- quite a bit of useful life left in them. >> all right, thank you. >> other members of the board? mr. reiskin? >> yes, i guess i want to add a bit more context and explanation and perhaps offer that, since we've been working very closely with supervisor chiu, justin true from his office may want to add a few...
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appearance of the vehicles are that blunder our neighbors and it doesn't solvent problem but it gets us a step closer and that is not the only reason i'm supporting it but i'll be backing this legislation. >> supervisor cohen. >>> thank you the one thing that i want to assess is the $700 fees for the permit holder amortizable. >> colleagues if you contain the same house same call without an objection this item is passed item 25. >> item 25 for the valencia -- thank you this ordinance allows to operate and other -- to operate under conditional use third floor along the value 11 sea commercial transit district and in researching this issue we realize right now they are able to operate on the second floor with a conditional use but that is not provided for the third floor and from a policy perspective it's not clear what the -- we want for this and the further distinction and we have been carol to make sure that there is no affordable housing touched by this measure and neighbors define the types of business and is neighborhood services that can open around this corridor and so i would ask
appearance of the vehicles are that blunder our neighbors and it doesn't solvent problem but it gets us a step closer and that is not the only reason i'm supporting it but i'll be backing this legislation. >> supervisor cohen. >>> thank you the one thing that i want to assess is the $700 fees for the permit holder amortizable. >> colleagues if you contain the same house same call without an objection this item is passed item 25. >> item 25 for the valencia -- thank...
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please visit us onli >> all right, good evening, everybody, who wants to see a tree lit? >> happy holidays, welcome to fabulous mcclarin lodge here in golden gate park. my name is phil ginsberg and i am the general manager of your san francisco recreation and park department and i want to welcome you all to the 83rd annual tree lighting. happy holidays for you all. the trust for public land as mr. mayor knows recently named your park the number one park system in the entire united states of america. [ applause ] >> we were also just named as a finalist to host this cool international parks conference in 2015 in which we are going to be welcoming cities from all over the country to learn how we do it here in san francisco. and then, just last month, and a big thank you to all of you, san francisco voters approved proposition b. the cleanest safe neighborhood parks fund which allows us to renovate and juvinate your parks. 83 years ago, uncle john mcclarin and if you go in the gm office you can see a picture of him. started the tradition of lighting this mile-long stretch of
please visit us onli >> all right, good evening, everybody, who wants to see a tree lit? >> happy holidays, welcome to fabulous mcclarin lodge here in golden gate park. my name is phil ginsberg and i am the general manager of your san francisco recreation and park department and i want to welcome you all to the 83rd annual tree lighting. happy holidays for you all. the trust for public land as mr. mayor knows recently named your park the number one park system in the entire united...
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the folks don't have a place to use the rest room. we have gone and gone in the last year to try to get the uta to move on this project and one of the things that they continually come back to us is that there is a lack of funding and so the reason that i approached this board today, is to try to put out a general call, not only to the transportation authority but to the board of supervisors in general that this is a health issue for employees of the city and county of san francisco. and it is an issue for us as union representatives to hear the complaints from our members that they have nowhere to go. we have had media coverage on this, we have spoken on it several times and we are trying to get some movement because it is an emergency situation for our people. and we just don't want our members, or the employees of san francisco, or this railway, to be continued to be treated as second or third class citizens without the ability to have clean, functioning facilitis that they can use while they serve the city and county of san franci
the folks don't have a place to use the rest room. we have gone and gone in the last year to try to get the uta to move on this project and one of the things that they continually come back to us is that there is a lack of funding and so the reason that i approached this board today, is to try to put out a general call, not only to the transportation authority but to the board of supervisors in general that this is a health issue for employees of the city and county of san francisco. and it is...
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and there is so much more to say to have the opportunity in january other than use. and from the bottom of our heart i know that the staff will truly miss you and we hope that we will have you fooling around the agency in spirit and literally as we move forward. thank you. >> thank you. >> and again, we want to thank mr. moskovich and his partner and the rest of his family and we look forward to the january presentation. madam clerk, if you could call item number five. >> award an 18 move consultant contract with options to extend to two additional two year terms, to itercircumstance in an amount not-to-exceed $130,000 for the vehicle level of service and transit speed monitoring as part of the 2013 congestion management program, and this is an action item. >> and this became before the finance committee and i don't have any speaker cards. let me ask any member of the public who would like to speak on item five? seeing un, public comment is closed and let me take a roll call? >> avalos? >> aye. >> campos. >> aye. >> chiu >> aye >> chu. >> aye. >> cohen >> aye. >> fer
and there is so much more to say to have the opportunity in january other than use. and from the bottom of our heart i know that the staff will truly miss you and we hope that we will have you fooling around the agency in spirit and literally as we move forward. thank you. >> thank you. >> and again, we want to thank mr. moskovich and his partner and the rest of his family and we look forward to the january presentation. madam clerk, if you could call item number five. >>...
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with that being said, do i want to use weapons that are only about pain compliance or use a weapon system that is about controlling and stopping that person from doing any further aggressive behavior than what they are doing and our policy is if you look at the policy. it is not about using the policy against someone who is simply non-compliant. that would be a violation of the policy. it is about using potentially that weapon system against someone who is active, state of aggression towards the officers and or the public themselves. so, with that said, it is a weapon system that controls as opposed to uses pain as a means of acquiring compliance. >> i have a couple of follow ups, but i know that the chair has a question. >> actually this probably dove tails with his questions, but for all of us to really understand, could you explain how electronic controlled weapon, a taser works? >> it works by simply, capturing the electrical systems within your muscles and basically constricting your muscles. >> but mechanically, you fire something? >> there are two probes that come out of the weapon
with that being said, do i want to use weapons that are only about pain compliance or use a weapon system that is about controlling and stopping that person from doing any further aggressive behavior than what they are doing and our policy is if you look at the policy. it is not about using the policy against someone who is simply non-compliant. that would be a violation of the policy. it is about using potentially that weapon system against someone who is active, state of aggression towards...
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we used it six words previous? >> all right. >> i will make the offer for a short break once again. commissioners are we okay to go forward, do you want a few minutes? carry on. the next item on the agenda is the performance evaluation for director st. croix. public comment on matters pertaining to agenda item 5? >> i support the good work that the director is doing and i hope that you will find similarly in closed session. i do think it's work having periodic or annual performance evaluations, including setting goals and reviewing the performance of our employee and ensuring that his goals and yours are aligned and progressing. thanks. >> the commission typically discusses the evaluation of the executive director in closed session. is there a motion to hold the meeting in closed session under government code section section 54957b and sunshine ordinance 6.10b? >> so moved. >> second. >> all in favor? >> aye. >> opposed? hearing none, we will deliberate regarding the performance of the executive director in closed session. >> whether to disclose any portion of the closed session, di
we used it six words previous? >> all right. >> i will make the offer for a short break once again. commissioners are we okay to go forward, do you want a few minutes? carry on. the next item on the agenda is the performance evaluation for director st. croix. public comment on matters pertaining to agenda item 5? >> i support the good work that the director is doing and i hope that you will find similarly in closed session. i do think it's work having periodic or annual...
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visit us >> feel like it really is a community. they are not the same thing, but it really does feel like there's that kind of a five. everybody is there to enjoy a literary reading. >> the best lit in san francisco. friendly, free, and you might get fed. ♪ [applause] >> this san francisco ryther created the radar reading series in 2003. she was inspired when she first moved to this city in the early 1990's and discover the wild west atmosphere of open mi it's ic in the mission. >> although there were these open mics every night of the week, they were super macho. people writing poems about being jerks. beatty their chest onstage. >> she was energized by the scene and proved up with other girls who wanted their voices to be heard. touring the country and sharing gen-x 7 as a. her mainstream reputation grew with her novel. theses san francisco public library took notice and asked her if she would begin carrying a monthly reading series based on her community. >> a lot of the raiders that i work with our like underground writers. t
visit us >> feel like it really is a community. they are not the same thing, but it really does feel like there's that kind of a five. everybody is there to enjoy a literary reading. >> the best lit in san francisco. friendly, free, and you might get fed. ♪ [applause] >> this san francisco ryther created the radar reading series in 2003. she was inspired when she first moved to this city in the early 1990's and discover the wild west atmosphere of open mi it's ic in the...
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please check out his plaque after you have cake with us and thank you very much and go giants. [applause] >> >> >> >> hi. i am cory with san francisco and we're doing stay safe and we're going to talk about what shelter in place or safe enough to stay in your home means. we're here at the urban center on mission street in san francisco and joined by carla, the deputy director of spur and one of the persons who pushed this shelter in place and safe enough to stay concept and we want to talk about what it means and why it's important to san francisco. >> as you know the bay area as 63% chance of having a major earthquake and it's serious and going to impact a lot of people and particularly people in san francisco because we live on a major fault so what does this mean for us? part of what it means is that potentially 25% of san francisco's building stock will be uninhibit tabl and people can't stay in their homes after an earthquake. they may have to go to shelters or leave entirely and we don't want that to happen. >> we want a building stock to encourage them to stay in the hom
please check out his plaque after you have cake with us and thank you very much and go giants. [applause] >> >> >> >> hi. i am cory with san francisco and we're doing stay safe and we're going to talk about what shelter in place or safe enough to stay in your home means. we're here at the urban center on mission street in san francisco and joined by carla, the deputy director of spur and one of the persons who pushed this shelter in place and safe enough to stay concept...
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i think the time used for this discussion on this ordinance would have been better used to find out why this gay man, who was a city employee at san francisco general hospital, and he worked side by side with me, why the city has actively in my opinion blunted any inquiry into his death. and i would urge that the owners of this bar do the public service by asking why any supervisor for this district so far has refuetzd to step forward and ask what happened to joseph malison, why was this gay man in my opinion bullied and forced to die a gruesome death while a city employee. it's been 13 years and some people i know down in new orleans said that there's such a thing as a curse and maybe the curse of joe might be one of the reasons why the gay community has not been flourishing during the last 13 years. thank you. >> next speaker, is there anyone else who would like to speak? seeing none, public comment is closed. colleagues, can we move this forward without objection? >> item 5 is an ordinance amending the health code to prohibit smoking at certain outdoor events. >> thank you, colleague
i think the time used for this discussion on this ordinance would have been better used to find out why this gay man, who was a city employee at san francisco general hospital, and he worked side by side with me, why the city has actively in my opinion blunted any inquiry into his death. and i would urge that the owners of this bar do the public service by asking why any supervisor for this district so far has refuetzd to step forward and ask what happened to joseph malison, why was this gay...
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our final accommodation of the day will be to our second colleague local be leaving us today although he know he is not going far sean i have to say when i read the resolution that was draft of the to you today i was honestly blown away by how much you have done over the whereas and supervisor elsburnd has served for the past 12 years to supervisor tone aye hall and as well as belong to this board of supervisor and is for two terms as a member of this board and he has attended 502 of 505 board meetings held since 2,000 one missing three meeting for his honey moon and the birth of his son and among the many bits of legislation he has passed i has worked on the planning commission and adopting capital planning for our city for years to come and spear headed reform in our community and we know his leadership when it comes to our mention plan and the mere i can't do important and lesser known thing that he has done in district seven from golf course -- to working for the irish immigration center et cetera, and i think we can probably talk for many hours about the many thing that you have
our final accommodation of the day will be to our second colleague local be leaving us today although he know he is not going far sean i have to say when i read the resolution that was draft of the to you today i was honestly blown away by how much you have done over the whereas and supervisor elsburnd has served for the past 12 years to supervisor tone aye hall and as well as belong to this board of supervisor and is for two terms as a member of this board and he has attended 502 of 505 board...
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so that is another reason for us not even to consider using them in this city because you don't know what effect they have on perfectly innocent people. >> thank you very much. >> i believe that the donation was for defibrillators not for the tasers. >> the next speaker, please? >> good afternoon, i just wanted to make three quick points. first of all i am from iowa. i know you probably thinking what does that have to do with anything? i took the emta course in iowa. >> speak in the mic. >> i am sorry. >> i am from iowa, i took the emta course in iowa. which was a year-long. to be able to go into the emt d program which was the problem to use the defibrillator you had to go through the basic training to be able to get into the defib and it was another nine-month course. i'm thinking how are we going to train police officers in a short time to be able to use them effectively? >> another thing is i wish that i would have brought the article to bring copies for you gentleman and lady. >> on the places that have done away with tasers because of malfunctions. and if you would like the art
so that is another reason for us not even to consider using them in this city because you don't know what effect they have on perfectly innocent people. >> thank you very much. >> i believe that the donation was for defibrillators not for the tasers. >> the next speaker, please? >> good afternoon, i just wanted to make three quick points. first of all i am from iowa. i know you probably thinking what does that have to do with anything? i took the emta course in iowa....
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>> would you just remind us sort of for the record and the discussion how many commissioners it takes to hold a meeting in the first place? it's not that there could be one person or two people here. >> there have to be three. sometimes four, depending on the issue. but for this, i think we could do it with three. but you would be in the situation potentially where you had three members of commission hearing the issue you wouldn't get a majority either way. thus, by finding a violation with only even one commissioner supporting the finding of the violation. which is somewhat troubling. i don't know if staff, before i hear from you mr. pillpa. >> so we could put a provision in here that says five members must be here in order to have a hearing. to ensure that, you know, that situation doesn't occur. even with four members you could still have a 3-1 vote and that would be perfectly fine. you would have a 3-0 vote with just three people sitting here and that would be perfectly fine too. if you want to ensure that a party comingbefore you has full access to the commission rather than four
>> would you just remind us sort of for the record and the discussion how many commissioners it takes to hold a meeting in the first place? it's not that there could be one person or two people here. >> there have to be three. sometimes four, depending on the issue. but for this, i think we could do it with three. but you would be in the situation potentially where you had three members of commission hearing the issue you wouldn't get a majority either way. thus, by finding a...
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. >> ladies and gentlemen please join us in the pledge of allegiance. [pledge of allegiance] i pledge allegiance to the flag, of the united states of america, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >>> colleagues we have board meeting minutes from october 23, november twired and could i a motion to approve those minutes. motion by campus and seconded by advocate lows and those minutes are approved. and if you could read our two parliament special order. >> the first item of business between the board of supervisors this week representing district will he and 11 the mayor may address the board initially for five minutes and the board will recognize the supervisor with their questions and the entire discussion may be exceed five minutes per supervisor, mr. mayor welcome back to the champ for your final questions see if you have any opening comments. >> thank you president chew supervisors we made it to the end of the year and this is the last question time for 2012 and it's been a grea
. >> ladies and gentlemen please join us in the pledge of allegiance. [pledge of allegiance] i pledge allegiance to the flag, of the united states of america, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >>> colleagues we have board meeting minutes from october 23, november twired and could i a motion to approve those minutes. motion by campus and seconded by advocate lows and those minutes are approved. and if you...